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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: Which Rasbora? Reply with quote

Which Rasbora is more vividly colored, merah or briggitae? Smallest? Which one schools?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Rasbora? Reply with quote

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Which Rasbora is more vividly colored, merah or briggitae? Smallest? Which one schools?


They all school, but this behaviour usually stops after a while as the fish become more comfortable in their new tank.
Merah is smaller at 0.8" (verses 1.3" for briggitae)
Both are equally colorful, IMO. Coloration is going to depend on the tank they are in. To bring out the best color, the tank should be planted and have a dark gravel.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Frank for all of your replies. I have been coming back & looking at all your great fish for months now. I finally set up the tank I want to keep kuhli loaches in this weekend. According to your description of them, I need to wait before I can add them. How long do you think? It is a planted tank, started with turbo start.
The other tank I want to add fish to is a 4.3 gallon nano. It has been set up since the end of september 07'. It has only 1 spixi snail. I was thinking either a pair of the Australian desert gobies, or one of these types of rasboras. I am torn.
My first planted nano tank has a dwarf puffer and two orange shrimp. It is also a 4.3 gal nano.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I finally set up the tank I want to keep kuhli loaches in this weekend. According to your description of them, I need to wait before I can add them. How long do you think? It is a planted tank, started with turbo start.


Once the tank isc cycled (no ammonia or nitrite), you can add the kuhli loaches.

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The other tank I want to add fish to is a 4.3 gallon nano. It has been set up since the end of september 07'. It has only 1 spixi snail. I was thinking either a pair of the Australian desert gobies, or one of these types of rasboras. I am torn.


Either would work, but the Rasboras might fill up the tank a bit more.

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My first planted nano tank has a dwarf puffer and two orange shrimp. It is also a 4.3 gal nano.


And the puffer is not eating the shrimp? I am very surprised.

BTW, nice-looking tanks. You did a great job on them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good to know about the loaches. I have had no problem with my dp and shrimp. Pond snails are another story.. Smile Thanks for the compliment.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the compliment.


I really like the white "paths" you did. I like things like that.I did something similar, but with sand and natural gravel. I was trying to show water leaving a sewer pipe (for our lower Hudson river exhibit), and how the water leaving the pipe washed away the lighter sand, exposing the larger rocks underneath.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you would like to do this, I'll tell you what I did. I wish I had documented the process with pics, it was not very hard. I started with a layer of hyponex peat & compost potting soil. I put pieces of aluminum foil into the shape of the path and filled the center with fine white sand from petland. I get this kind because it comes in small bags and it's very white & fine. It says ok for marine or fw tanks right on the bag. I have used this sand for years with bettas, without issue. First I soak the sand in a bucket with fw and run my hand through it for a day or so, or it will float at the top and when it settles it will fall all over the black part. Then I filled the outer sides with fine black gravel. One would think the sand would get into the gravel, but it's mostly the opposite, tending to a few unruly pieces of gravel now and then.
Can I ask please, I have been looking at the scarlet badis all night as a possibility for the tank on the right. I read a nice article about them. It says I could even keep amano shrimp with them. How do you like them? Would you recommend 1 or 2 in such a small tank? Would they get along with other fish like your mini moth catfish or?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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waterfaller1 wrote:
Thanks for the compliment.


.I did something similar, but with sand and natural gravel. I was trying to show water leaving a sewer pipe (for our lower Hudson river exhibit), and how the water leaving the pipe washed away the lighter sand, exposing the larger rocks underneath.
Is this a display in your store? I would love to see your shop, I would probably be like a kid in a candy store. I grew up in NJ, and spent much of my time in the woods wading through streams as a kid. And a whole lot of time in a LFS in downtown New Brunswick. Then when I was a little older we moved to Highland Park NJ. There was a stream that ran along a RR track there. I cannot tell you how many hours I spent there trying to catch various colored goldfish. Someone must have dumped some in there, because there were literally thousands throughout this stream of every color combination. Now you see why I am a tank nut... Smile
I think some pics of your tanks, your shop, or your customer's tanks would make a nice addition to your website.
I changed the 10 gal a little yesterday, took out the anacharis and put it in my snail farm. Someone told me it would just melt in a heated tank. I off-centered the driftwood to the left, and grouped the plants more. The 10 will have Hinomaru {CRS} shrimp, the corydoras habrosus, I am thinking 3 Kuhli loaches, and then some kind of schooling fish would be nice? Maybe one of the types of micro-rasboras would look good in there or the CPD's? Just something that would not threaten my Hinomarus or their offspring. I lean more towards no overhead swimming fish with this tank, as I want the Hinomaru to feel comfortable. That is why my little nano on the right has no tank inhabitants. I was keeping regular lower grade CRS in it and they were doing good, the females even berried. Then I added the anubias nana petite one day, and the next morning they were all dead. I have read that the oxalic acid in the anubias may have done it. There is also a crypt in there that is getting over the 'meltdown' stage. Maybe it was just too much toxin for them in such a small space. The 10 gal will have no anubias or crypts for this reason.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I would share what I have been doing since 03' with you.... Cool
This is my 90 gallon.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 12 gal NC



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waterfaller1 wrote:
Is this a display in your store?


no, I work for a public aquarium here in NY. We used to have a Hudson river exhibit, and that was in one of the tanks.

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I would love to see your shop, I would probably be like a kid in a candy store.


It's not a regular store. I work from my garage.

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I grew up in NJ, and spent much of my time in the woods wading through streams as a kid. And a whole lot of time in a LFS in downtown New Brunswick. Then when I was a little older we moved to Highland Park NJ. There was a stream that ran along a RR track there. I cannot tell you how many hours I spent there trying to catch various colored goldfish. Someone must have dumped some in there, because there were literally thousands throughout this stream of every color combination. Now you see why I am a tank nut... Smile


I still go collecting in local streams during the warm weather (as well as in marine waters during "tropicals time"). A number of years back, I managed to snag a red oscar that someone had released. Mostly, though, I get mud minnows, sticklebacks, diaphanus killifish and the like.

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I think some pics of your tanks, your shop, or your customer's tanks would make a nice addition to your website.


Once the garage is redone, I will post pics. But I do like the idea of posting pics of customers tanks.

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I changed the 10 gal a little yesterday, took out the anacharis and put it in my snail farm. Someone told me it would just melt in a heated tank.


There is a slight chance that will happen, but you might try it with one or two sprigs, to see how it does.

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Maybe one of the types of micro-rasboras would look good in there or the CPD's?


The CPD's would look awesome in there, and they should not bother the shrimp.

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Then I added the anubias nana petite one day, and the next morning they were all dead. I have read that the oxalic acid in the anubias may have done it.


Hmm....unless they were eating the plant in quantity, I don't see how it could. We have kept various Anubias species (including nana) in tanks containing inverts (including glass shrimp) without incident.

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There is also a crypt in there that is getting over the 'meltdown' stage. Maybe it was just too much toxin for them in such a small space. The 10 gal will have no anubias or crypts for this reason.


That makes more sense, but I can't see one or two Crypts causing a water problem. It is a puzzlement!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Barr{the plant guy} said it's not true, but I am not convinced. He said if a cow drops a patty in Africa someone's CRS dies... Smile In other words, they are just super sensitive. Somone told me that anubias if disturbed could release a toxin, and they did die the next morning..so..who knows? My next batch of CRS are going to be Hinomaru, so I want to be very careful with them. CPD's sounds good, it's actually the reaon I found your website in the beginning. There is one other website I know that carries them, but after reading what they have written on their website I wouldn't order from them if they were the only place available. It's a real turn off.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can I ask please, I have been looking at the scarlet badis all night as a possibility for the tank on the right. I read a nice article about them. It says I could even keep amano shrimp with them. How do you like them? Would you recommend 1 or 2 in such a small tank? Would they get along with other fish like your mini moth catfish or?
Guess I got a little carried away this morning running my mouth and posting pictures...not sure if you saw this question. Thanks
BTW..I don't want to send your bandwith through the roof, I can remove all those pics if you need me to.Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

franksaquarium wrote:

no, I work for a public aquarium here in NY. We used to have a Hudson river exhibit, and that was in one of the tanks.


What kind of fauna/flora is in the Hudson anyways? I've always thought about doing a Hudson river tank, but soda cans, newspaper and traces of my urine were about as close as I got to an accurate biotope.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guess I got a little carried away this morning running my mouth and posting pictures...not sure if you saw this question. Thanks
BTW..I don't want to send your bandwith through the roof, I can remove all those pics if you need me to.Embarassed


Given that they're hosted on photobucket, it doesn't use any of this site's bandwidth.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vampie wrote:
franksaquarium wrote:

no, I work for a public aquarium here in NY. We used to have a Hudson river exhibit, and that was in one of the tanks.


What kind of fauna/flora is in the Hudson anyways? I've always thought about doing a Hudson river tank, but soda cans, newspaper and traces of my urine were about as close as I got to an accurate biotope.
LOL...I know a guy with a huge sw reef tank that is older than most sw hobbyists. He has beer bottles and chains in it.. Smile
Thanks for telling me that about the pics.
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Can I ask please, I have been looking at the scarlet badis all night as a possibility for the tank on the right. I read a nice article about them. It says I could even keep amano shrimp with them. How do you like them?


They are a nice little fish. Can be shy, and they need hiding places.

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Would you recommend 1 or 2 in such a small tank?


Either 1 or a pair, but not two males.

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Would they get along with other fish like your mini moth catfish or?


They appear to get along with anything that can't eat them. They can be aggressive towards each other, though, especially males.

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BTW..I don't want to send your bandwith through the roof, I can remove all those pics if you need me to.Embarassed


The pics are not a problem. The only thing I would ask is that you keep the pic size down to 400 x whatever and 100 or so kb. Makes for easier downloading by those without broadband.
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What kind of fauna/flora is in the Hudson anyways? I've always thought about doing a Hudson river tank, but soda cans, newspaper and traces of my urine were about as close as I got to an accurate biotope.


In this particular exhibit, we had marine species:

common killie
striped killie
Northern Seahorse
Northern pipefish
Atlantic Silverside
flatclaw hermit crab
mud snails
small cod/pollock
summer and winter flounder

to name a few.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Rasbora? Reply with quote

Wow. Shocked Gorgeous tanks, Waterfaller1. Thank you for sharing the pics of them.

Lou
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the compliment Lou. They are my passion, my expression of art. I love each and every creature I have in my care, and strive to keep them as healthy as possible. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Waterfaller,

Awesome tanks! I recognize all of your saltwater critters, except for the object in the second picture from the top of the post about your NanoCube 12. It appears to be yellowish and it's in front of/above a blue-green ricordia. It's driving me nuts that I can't figure out what it is. Smile My best guess is possibly a nudibranch, a shrimp, or worm of some sort.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe..that is a Tozeuma ghost pipe shrimp~Leander Plumosus. My favorite sw invert. Thank you for the compliment. Frank, I will have to remove the images I guess. My new computer is a Vista, and it won't run my adobe photoshop, so I cannot downsize the pics.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Frank, I will have to remove the images I guess. My new computer is a Vista, and it won't run my adobe photoshop, so I cannot downsize the pics.

Don't bother removing them. They're fine. Or, if you like, I can download them, resize them, and send them back to you.
I am using Adobe Photoshop Elements 5 on my Vista machine, if that helps.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be great! There probably is a way to get it to run..but I am a blonde.. Smile
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That would be great! There probably is a way to get it to run..but I am a blonde.. Smile


LOL! Pics were done and sent to your email.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I removed the big images and will put a couple of the resized ones back later. Having a heater controller issue with the 90 this morning. I use a Finnex titanium w/ controller, and this at least my third one that has quit. Of course it picked a chilly morning to do this. Rolling Eyes

You went far beyond Frank, thanks so much.
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Having a heater controller issue with the 90 this morning. I use a Finnex titanium w/ controller, and this at least my third one that has quit. Of course it picked a chilly morning to do this. Rolling Eyes


I used to think Finnex was a good brand, but after over a dozen of them quitting on me (at work), I have to rethink my position (ya think??) Right now, there does not appear to be a good, small titanium heater on the market.
Commodity Axis makes a titanium heater, but their original model had problems. supposedly their new model is much more reliable, but who knows?

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You are welcome.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I contacted the LFS where I originally purchased my Finnex titanium. I have since just ordered the replacement controllers online, but figured I could get one quicker if he had them. He told me in fact they had problems with them as well. He has some on order to arrive this week which are supposed to be their new & improved controller. We'll see...
Laughing

How's that weather going up there for you? Ours' is on and off. This is the only state I have lived in where you can have heat & A/C on in the same day..hah. Smile


I have one more tank I set up this last weekend. It is a nice seamless glass finnex 4 gal. A finnex filter, and a 13 wt PC fixture came with it. It will be for my new halfmoon betta from Thailand. He is really nice, irridescent edges on his fins & tail. He's called a pineapple lavender.
I also changed the substrate from Florabase to Eco Complete in the new 10 gallon soon to be CRS tank with corydoras & hopefully Kuhli loaches if you have some.

Some more questions about the axelrods please~ Will they school? Would the red & the blue get along?
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How's that weather going up there for you? Ours' is on and off. This is the only state I have lived in where you can have heat & A/C on in the same day..hah. Smile


Still in the 20's, or lower. Looks like the 28th is going to be the first shipping day.

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Some more questions about the axelrods please~ Will they school? Would the red & the blue get along?


They will get along as they are the asme fish. And they will school, but not for long. If there is no reason for them to school, they soon lose that behavior.
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